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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Which iPhone 5 Lets You Roam Where You Want?</title>
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		<description>The iPhone 5 comes in two versions, one of which has two variants for activation. Which model or carrier you pick can affect your later ability to roam around the world.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 00:00:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2012 02:01:07 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Can you clarify your mention of Japan here?  What can you do in Japan, that you can't do elsewhere?  Are you saying that completely unlocked phones available here?  Or just that I can activate an unlocked phone on AU, and preserver unlocked GSM?<br><br>I'm looking for a way to get an AU (CDMA) phone, and keep unlocked GSM capabilities for use in Europe/USA (not so concerned about LTE while on GSM - but would be nice to have).  I've tried a UK SIM in an AU phone, and it told me it was unable to activate.  Weird that inserting a SIM kicks off the activation routine.  Is that new to iOS6?  Or is it a carrier lock thing from AU?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from BM]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:14:35 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (BM)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Cricket wireless sell Iphone 5 for around 500$. But those are CDMA version. I read few technical details and also had a chat with their representative and it seems that the CDMA ones can also work on GSM network internationally. Is that true ?..so can I use those Iphone5 from cricketwireless on 3G/4G GSM network in other country by getting SIM from local carrier ?(its fine to me if it does not work on LTE)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Rick]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:13:30 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Rick)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I live in Saudi Arabia so which model is best to buy? Below is the cell providers and their frequency...<br><br>Zain – LTE 1800 MHz<br>STC – LTE 2.3 GHz<br>Mobiliy – LTE 2.5 GHz]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Gloria]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:33:09 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Gloria)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I have a iphone 4S. I am traveling around the world and I would like to know if there is any chip that I can use in all the different countries. I don't want to be changing them. I don't mind the carrier, but I don't want to pay for roaming either. It can be an internet chip too.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 00:52:02 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[To our knowledge, if you purchase an A1429 and don't activate it on Verizon's network, you cannot later activate it on Verizon's network.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dr N K Chaudhry]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:59:49 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dr N K Chaudhry)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[You mentioned that if verizon iphone model 1429 is used with gsm nanosim from t-mobile, then it can never be used on verizon's cdma network.I think   that is not right. CDMA module can be used for the network it was designed like verizon in this case and we used only gsm part. Recheck please. Once you go out of US on gsm on 1429, you can always use the primary provider that's verizon when you come back to US]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:20:07 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Just like the iPhone 4, an unlocked GSM version works worldwide, including in India, with all major GSM carriers and most smaller ones, for normal voice calls and 3G and 4G data. (3G/4G data support varies by what's rolled out and on what frequencies by a given carrier, however.)<br><br>The LTE data support is limited in the GSM model that the Apple Store sells to frequencies used only or primarily in the U.S. and Canada. You would be better off getting an unlocked iPhone 4S (saving $100) if you're counting on LTE rather than just wanting the newer iPhone 5.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from jasleen singh]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:18:24 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (jasleen singh)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm going to get an iPhone 5 from Canada. It's unlocked and bought from an Apple store (no contract)? I live in india and will be using it here only? Please tell me if it will work here or not?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:59:54 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[You can buy a no-contract phone at full price from Verizon (in the $600-range), and it doesn't require activation with Verizon's service.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from daniel mao]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2012 11:20:35 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (daniel mao)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Problem is how do you purchase a Verizon 5 without activating a line with them? Apple on-line store requires a contract as part of purchase process. So for now [at least], impossible to get your hands on Vz iphone 5 without also committing to a 2 yr contract.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Joe]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 02:46:53 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Joe)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yeah my friend will buy one for me, he'll activate it there, then bring back to me. Then sure I can plug in my home country nano-SIM GSM card and use it rite?<br><br>Thanks for the reply, really appreciate it.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Mo]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 01:15:10 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Mo)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the info.  I've cancelled my order with AT&T and re-ordered with Verizon.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 00:52:05 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Verizon doesn't provide a GSM nano-SIM, but an unlocked empty slot, is my understanding. You have to live in the U.S. to buy from Verizon, I think, or have a credit card with a delivery address here.<br><br>You can then plug in a home-country nano-SIM GSM card and it will work worldwide on 2G/3G/4G (up to HSPA+ and DC-HSPA).]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Joe]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 23:43:23 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Joe)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear Glenn, <br><br>Well, same question here. I live in Indonesia, I wonder if I can purchase an iphone 5 from the US and use it in my home country? I've been reading some articles about this matter and I wonder:<br><br>I preferably by iphone 5 from Verizon (since the sell unlocked handset) in the US with A1429 (CDMA and GSM model), and activate it with Verizon GSM nano-SIM card, and bring the handset to my home country, change it with my local sim card and use it with my home country's GSM cellular data speed? <br><br>Is it?<br><br>Thanks for the info..]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:54:43 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I am not sure that AT&T will unlock your SIM slot after you pay termination fee, which means you have to get a third-party hack to unlock it. I may be wrong. I know once you are near the end of a contract or out of contract, they will unlock.<br><br>Verizon ships the iPhone 5 with its SIM slot unlocked, and the model that ships has LTE bands more likely to work outside the U.S.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Mo]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:05:56 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Mo)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Glenn. I live in the UAE (Dubai) and both the service providers here have a band 3 (1800MHz FD-LTE) frequency band.  I have ordered an AT&T iPhone 5 through apple.com and will use it for a month in the US than terminate my contract and pay the termination fee.   Thereafter I will use it in the UAE and other locations during business travel where I will insert a local sim. Someone has recently told me if you want to get an iPhone5 for primary use in the UAE it might be a better option to purchase from Verizon. I still have an opportunity to cancel my order with AT&T and order with another carrier since I only ordered it less than a week ago.  I just want to buy the best iPhone5 for use outside the US, primarily in the UAE. What is the best spec for my purpose based on the specs provided on apples website below?<br><br>Note iphone 5 is not available in the UAE yet.<br><br>http://www.apple.com/iphone/specs.html]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from dave nuss]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:21:48 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (dave nuss)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[CNET's "Ask Maggie" column addresses same topic written in a different style from Glen's, maybe worth a glance for those in the expat boat:<br><a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57522837-94/ask-maggie-is-back-which-iphone-5-is-right-for-you/">http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57522837-94/ask-maggie-is-back-which-iphone-5-is-right-for-you/</a>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from dave nuss]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 23:47:05 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (dave nuss)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Hm. Ok, so only the ATT, model A1428 is available to order in unlocked/no contract version now. I'll need to wait for the unlocked GSM A1429, which has LTE in some of the places I'll go. Maybe leave money with a friend to pick one up for me, as I'm leaving in about a month. Now I think I'm catching on, Many Thanks GF!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:32:22 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, although you can also apparently cut down a micro-SIM to nano-SIM size and it works (the electronics are tiny; the form factors were larger for reasons I've never understood).<br><br>The advantage of the A1429 is that if you ever want to use LTE in a country that uses the bands supported, you can. The A1428 has none of those bands.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from dave nuss]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:37:20 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (dave nuss)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Glenn, thanks for the illuminating article and your comment replies.<br>I plan to get a full price iPhone 5, go expat, live in India, travel around south Asia, China, and Europe.<br>Provided availability of nano sims, I should choose one of the GSM models in order to make voice calls, is that right? <br>LTE is not a big deal, I can accept slower cellular data speeds (3G is just emerging now in India).<br>So, do I have it right that in this case either GSM i5 will suit my needs?<br>Thanks very much.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:19:38 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[New information indicates that iPhone 5 activated on Verizon's CDMA network comes with its GSM SIM slot fully unlocked without requiring a call, and will work on AT&T's domestic network with an AT&T SIM. We'll update the article as we get information.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 15:00:49 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[To our current knowledge, no (except Japan).]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Santiago]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:21:08 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Santiago)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Is (or will be) there any way to activate an unlocked A1429 iPhone 5 outside USA and preserve CDMA functionality?  This would be ideal for people traveling to the U.S. frequently.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Misaki]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:32:31 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Misaki)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[We have a cheap looking plastic phone that overwhelms you by the long list of useless features, yet each feature is quite underwhelming. Also our OS won't be as liquid once we are forced to remove bunch of features we decided to copy from the other phone. You will do okay with our phone but won't fall in love with it. And you will likely make a switch to Apple again when iPhone 6 comes out.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:45:30 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[One assumes! We're trying to provide recommendations only based on what we know, and can update this article as we have more. One piece of advice may be: wait!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Curtis Wilcox]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 14:23:25 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Curtis Wilcox)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Cricket and Virgin Mobile (US) use the Sprint network and sell iPhone 4 and 4S without contract, right? Will they not eventually offer the iPhone 5?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:00:18 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The best way to achieve that is to get a Verizon or Sprint phone, which will work on U.S. LTE networks while having worldwide GSM 2G/3G/4G HSPA support. However, I don't know that Verizon or Sprint will sell a no-contract phone initially nor on such a phone if it unlocks the nano-SIM initially, either. Worth calling to ask.<br><br>If you buy the A1429 in France, Apple's specs page seems to indicate that if that model is activated on a GSM network, the two other LTE bands (one for Verizon) aren't available.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:55:51 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The AT&T and Telus model is identical in number. One has to assume (since we don't know) that an unlocked A1428 will work just like an unlocked iPhone 4S. The only unknown part is whether you will need a special LTE-ready nano-SIM for Telus that they won't rent, and a regular micro-SIM cut down to nano-SIM size won't work. We'll have to get reports about that when the phone ships.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Scott]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:31:42 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Scott)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Thoughts on the best model for USA and France usage? The tricky part is that France's planned LTE frequency is not supported by the iPhone 5. <br><br>So is there a model that I can use in France (3G only) and when I'm in the states have 4G (presumably with AT&T)? I'm in France more than the US, so wouldn't want a contract in the US, though I can purchase the phone in either country.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Ciprian]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:14:27 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Ciprian)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the reply. One thing I did forget to mention is that I already have a plan with AT&T here in the US, and have no further commitment with them. I would like to keep it this way and buy the iPhone unlocked, but from what I understand, the unlocked version will not be released for a while. I am willing to pay the full price of $799 ($CA) for the phone; I just need to know if the Telus Canadian version is same as AT&T which will be released in the US.]]></description>
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