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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Does Apple’s Podcasts App Suck Cellular Data?</title>
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		<description>Glenn Fleishman found 140 MB of data used while he was driving and using the Podcasts app. Does it suck?</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:00:00 EDT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 12:03:19 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, that's absolutely true. As noted in the article, that switch applies only to auto-downloading of podcasts, not playing of them - two very different actions. <br><br>Personally, I think the switch needs to apply to all cell data usage in Podcasts...]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from John Hoffoss]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:58:12 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (John Hoffoss)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I've seen the same thing--the switch doesn't prevent the podcasts app from using cellular data.<br><br>Simple test: turn off wi-fi, switch cellular to off (Settings-&gt;Podcasts), go play a podcast that isn't downloaded.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from John Hoffoss]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:56:50 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (John Hoffoss)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I was able to get credit for every overage charge from AT&T. Mentioning the podcasts app, explaining most of the largest data chunks were overnight, while plugged into a charger and connected to WiFi. Oh, and I got those credits before the charges even showed up--they knew this was an issue a few days in already.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Bryan]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2012 09:34:16 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Bryan)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I went over my limit last month and somehow downloaded 21GB, at first it was because I foolishly allowed tbe podcasts to autodownload over 3G. I've turned it off but even leaving subscriptions turned on seems to cause a leap in data usage especially once I've left the house and my iPhone 4S switches to 3G. I'm using version 1.1.1 of Podcasts. My carrier has been completely unhelpful, although they have no problem aski g for money for my overages.<br><br>I have a case open with Apple and they seem to think there's something in my backup that's causing the issue.<br><br>I've restored my phone to factory settings and used the podcasts app and it seems to behave. Its only if i use it with my restored data is it ever an issue.<br><br>Right now, i just have the podcasts app and my data restored and while on my way to work I watched my 3G data usage jump 250MB! Only think is Subscriptions is on,what is subscriptions doing????!!!<br><br>My case after last night's call with Apple had been given to engineers.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Colin Turtle]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:39:06 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Colin Turtle)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks Glenn. I'll look in that link.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:32:38 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Did you follow the steps for fixing the iCloud/Safari bookmark sync problem? It can apparently affect people who aren't intending to sync bookmarks via iCloud (see Adam's linked article).<br><br>I'd talk to Verizon more in light of its updating carrier settings. It's very difficult to figure out how to establish responsibility. But if you're not intentionally using data and you see your phone consuming it, it hardly seems you should be paying for it.<br><br>Proving it will be a different matter. You might contact the attorney general's office in your state. In the past, AGs in various states have pursued action against cellular carriers based on terms of service. (AGs can't go after them for pricing and so forth, but can if they don't meet obligations.)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Colin Turtle]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 17:25:04 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Colin Turtle)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[In Boston the two store (Apple/Verizon) are a block apart of each other.<br><br>To add to my comment:<br><br>I'm also seeing strange activity with the Tethering information within the Cellular Usage of the Settings app.<br><br>Sometime it display a reading of relatively low data consumption  and other times I won't see anything.<br><br>To this date I have not activated tethering.<br><br>As it stands right now I've switched to using 3G on the iPhone 5, Deleted the Podcast app, Restored as New (3 times) Turned off some location aware apps in the hopes that another carrier setting or General iOS patch will come out cause I'm an fresh out of ideas here.<br><br>Thoughts?<br><br>Correction regarding Tethering location:<br>Settings/General/Usage/Cellular]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 15:01:45 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[What buildings?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Colin Turtle]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 12:48:17 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Colin Turtle)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[As I right this I'm streaming a podcast over wifi and tracking the usage in DataMan. The podcast is listed as 45mb. The data usage over wifi started at 515mb (recieved) and  jumped to 642mb (recieved). Keeping those numbers in mind it was around 11pm last night that I downloaded DataMan. Thankfully I was on wifi for that one. <br><br>However I have not been fortunate enough to be on wifi when this happens. Last week I tested turn by turn in maps and for ten minutes of use I used over 150mb, is that normal? <br><br>All in all I'm now on my third iPhone 5 (because of hardware faults) and from September 21st I've used a combined total of somewhere in the range of 3/4 gb of data.<br><br>I recently switch to a Verizon's family shared plan. Ported my number from an AT&T account that I had since the first generation iPhone where I averaged 1.5gb a month.<br><br>Verizon they told me to take it up with Apple and  and a employee told me that Verizon use apple as "crutch" because the the buildings Are in close proximity.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:40:06 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Unless AT&T (or Apple) does the right thing and refunds charges. Hm. I should apply for that, too, since I went over this month due to Podcasts (first half of September).<br><br>Verizon isn't charging its customers for excess usage this month that took place because of an apparent iPhone 5/iOS 6 configuration bug. We haven't heard a peep yet from whether AT&T has the same issue in place. This is separate from Podcasts, but the same principle.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:06:50 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I wouldn't be surprised if someone did file a class action suit on this one - it seems like there have been way too many unwarranted charges.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Vikas]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2012 09:24:46 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Vikas)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Just got hit by $15 extra charge by this stupid podcast app. There should be a class action lawsuit against apple for all these charges. <br>I have auto-download turned off over cellular and it still did that!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Bob]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:49:05 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Bob)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I have Podcasts 1.1.1 on ios6 and it appears to have used 93 mb of data while playing podcasts during a trip yesterday.  However I have the "auto-download": use cellular data set to "off".  Apparently this setting does nothing.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:28:02 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I believe that's correct.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:25:15 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[For what it's worth, I believe Podcasts is still sucking data. I use DataMan Pro, and it identifies a number of media/store processes, along with Podcasts, as using cellular data even though I have that setting off.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Randolph Peters]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:51:14 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Randolph Peters)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA["Podcasts" is still buggy and slow. And it prevents the Music app from letting you add podcasts to playlists. This is VERY important for running, car trips, and listening in the dark.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Ashley Ward]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 03:44:56 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Ashley Ward)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It took me a while to find the setting.  Go to the iPhone home screen, choose Settings, and scroll down to find "Podcasts".  It's grouped together with iTunes, iBooks etc (I looked under "P" in the third party app settings at the bottom and couldn't find it).  In those settings, there is a switch for "Use Cellular Data".]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Glenn Fleishman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:56:28 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Glenn Fleishman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[That's an excellent update! I, however, will never become aware of it, as I plan to never install Podcasts on my iPhone again. (Never say never.)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Michael Weinmayr]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:28:25 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Michael Weinmayr)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Podcasts 1.1 released today, has an "Update only on WiFi" setting]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Simon]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:58:21 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Simon)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know if the third party podcasting apps play well with other apps such as those used to track running?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Anderson]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:51:06 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Anderson)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I use an app called "Casts" (or Pocket Casts by full name) - allows me to download (when on Wifi). My allowance with O2 is only 100MB a month!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from M. Perry]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:37:51 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (M. Perry)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[You've explain one reason among many why I've already got a copy of Downcast. When they release an OS X version that lets me manage my playlists like iTunes does, I'll be shifting over from the Music app.<br><br>I don't really know why Apple created the Podcast app. There are third-party apps that work so much better.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Craig]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 03:28:25 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Craig)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Instacast, Pocket Casts and Downcast are the three big apps I think. I've used them all and liked them all. I'm currently using Instacast after sticking with Pocket Casts for a long time. Instacast and Downcast have more options and flexibility than Pocket Casts, but if you like to keep things relatively  simple then I'd definitely recommend Pocket Casts.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Joel Hall]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 23:08:33 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Joel Hall)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[My wife came home yesterday with a quite similar looking usage of data on her iPhone. Almost identical number of almost identical 19+++ kb data usages. Hers was over a 4 hour period, several just minutes apart. She did listen to one podcast on iCatcher, but I did not get the story if it was downloaded or streamed. But I don't think it was almost 200 MB for the one podcast.<br><br>It was strange to see this story right after looking at my ATT report for the first time after changing to a shared data plan- we generally use about 1- 1.5 GB in a month, but I wanted to track to see how we were doing and found this amazing amount of data in just half a day!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Tepuku]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 22:27:45 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Tepuku)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I have encountered this problem with both Apple's Podcasts app and Downcast.  It was maddening as I'd never gone over my cap becore. I deleted both apps but reinstalled Downcast but disabled "automatically download" in Settings]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Eric Therrien]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:32:51 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Eric Therrien)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I am experiencing issues with the Podcast app all the time. Seem like its downloading new podcast less than half the time and flagging podcast I have already listen too as not listened multiple time a day. Clicking on the download button doesn't seem to do anything most of the time. I am giving until iOS 6 to have this fix, after that, I am going to find another app.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Ward]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:28:11 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Ward)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I've observed more or less the same issue. Podcasts that I've listened to show up as unplayed, and the Podcasts app decides to download them. <br><br>You can see currently downloading podcasts in the Downloads section of the iTunes app—at least, it works for me. But frequently, they're already downloaded before I realize this is going on. <br><br>Separate from automatic downloads, the Podcast app will also start playing the next Podcast in a  list when you finish he previous one, and if it's not downloaded, it seems to stream it. <br><br>My data use has gone up since installing the Podcast app.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Ted Peters]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:46:47 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Ted Peters)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Same issue here: large, unexplained use of 3G data by my iPhone that I can only attribute to the Podcasts app. I went over my 300MB quota last month, but had never previously used as much as 200MB since the release of the very first iPhone. Apple, you owe me $30!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Jerry Sarfati]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:58:26 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Jerry Sarfati)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[My wife's iPhone used 3x her monthly average with the apple podcast app installed.  <br><br>After 2 months we removed the app, and added podcasts via iTunes.  Now data usage is back to normal.<br><br>A coinsidence? I think not...]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from JohnB (SciFiOne)
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:40:19 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (JohnB (SciFiOne)
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			<description><![CDATA[Thanks. Keep us informed as you always do and include cellular iPads too since that is what I use during travel. For now I'll use my Nano instead of the iPad 3rd (no iPhone - contract to expensive).]]></description>
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