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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Apple Releases New iMac, 13-inch MacBook Pro, and Mac mini</title>
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		<description>While Apple focused much of its media event on the new iPad mini, the company also took time to introduce three new Macs, including a redesigned iMac, a new 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display, and a speed-bumped Mac mini. Adam Engst has all the details.</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 00:00:00 EDT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 12:52:04 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Macworld is reporting that the iMac can now be ordered with straight flash storage, rather than just a normal hard disk or a combination Fusion drive.<br><br><a href="http://www.macworld.com/article/2037105/apple-expands-flash-storage-options-across-imac-line.html">http://www.macworld.com/article/2037105/apple-expands-flash-storage-options-across-imac-line.html</a>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Jeff Carlson]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 11:28:39 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Jeff Carlson)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[A few months ago Tim Cook said that the Mac Pro (or whatever Apple's pro alternative is) will come out in 2013. See <a href="http://www.macworld.com/article/1167247/cook_apple_planning_professional_mac_for_2013.html">http://www.macworld.com/article/1167247/cook_apple_planning_professional_mac_for_2013.html</a>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Steve Rickaby]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:14:59 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Steve Rickaby)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[When is Apple going to wake up and remember that it has a Mac Pro line? I am increasingly concerned about the directions the company is taking, and I completely agree with the comments here about thinness. Who cares if the new Mac is thinner than the old iMac? But folks will surely care if it's less reliable.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from tom powers]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2012 21:42:22 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (tom powers)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The point of an iMac is that it is one-piece. Adding a satellite optical drive returns clutter to the desktop. Moving all the external connections to the back of the machine is a dumb move too. I have the original model 27" iMac, and that necessitates a separate USB hub to plug and unplug the transitory devices (camera, iPod). Moving the SD card slot to the back is just stupid - that HAS to be a come-and-go device.<br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:21:03 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Here's how I'd evaluate these choices:<br><br>* Buy the Mac mini if cost is paramount - it will be a bit cheaper.<br><br>* If you really think you'll use the optical drive a lot, get the refurbished iMac, since it will be nice not having an extra box on your desk for the SuperDrive.<br><br>* If you want the Mac that will have the longest lifespan, get the new iMac. It will also likely have the best display of the three.<br><br>I would encourage getting the Fusion Drive (or a flash option for the refurb, if available) since my experience with SSDs is that they are a huge and noticeable win. But it will cost more.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Doug Stoner]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:05:59 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Doug Stoner)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I wanted to get your opinion on an upcoming purchase.  I see three options for a low-end desktop solution.  I normally use my mac for internet, Word, Excel.  I don't need gaming capabilities.<br><br>1.  A new iMac, probably the $1299 configuration plus a $70 Apple USB Superdrive.<br><br>2.  A refurb iMac (Sandy Bridge processor with quad i7 core) and I would add RAM to make it 8 GB, price is about $1290 plus about $50 for the RAM.<br><br>3.  A Mac Mini with the quad-core i7 ($899) plus a Viewsonic monitor (about $170) and an Apple USB Superdrive ($70).  I already have a mouse and keyboard and even 2x4 GB RAM to upgrade it.<br><br>The advantage of a new iMac seems limited.  It seems it is between a Mac Mini and a refurb iMac.  The speed of the Mac Mini seems to win.  But the iMac has everything together and I get the benefit of having it be all Apple.<br><br>Any advice on which you would choose?  Any other factors I am missing?<br><br>Thanks for your help,<br>Doug<br><br>p.s.  Thoughts on the advantages of adding a $250 Fusion Dr.?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Brian S.]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:11:24 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Brian S.)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Not a significant iMac update IMO. There seem to be negatives without significant positives. Having a slightly thinner desktop seems to offer no user advantage( as alluded to by the article ). The removal of a potentially useful optical drive saves Apple space and money but only reduces user options. I find it interesting that all Apple online store iMac sales are on hold waiting for the new models to arrive.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Don]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:53:55 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Don)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[FWIW -I'm running an old 2009 mac mini (3,1) with 8gb memory( added 4gb) and a 120 GB OWC mercury 3G SSD<br>for various reasons, prefer to stick with 10.6.8<br>Thus only moving part is fan. All seems to work fast and well cost less than 200 to upgrade to above<br> I also use an outboard SSD 64 GB for a backup of system plus some data files.<br><br>See no reason to upgrade to new mini.<br><br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from jweil]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:25:47 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (jweil)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I agree with the persons that are concerned about heat and the lack of user accessible RAM. However I am not that concerned about a lack of a optical drive. Since it is a desktop machine you can add your own external as you wish, such as a Blu-Ray drive that reads and writes everything else for around $100. My only issue with this is that Apple probably has not passed to the lowered cost of not having the drive to the consumer - just increased their profit. Is Apple becoming the new Microsoft? Can Tim Cook really fill Steve Job's shoes? These are questions that will be answered in a few years. My suggestion: If Tim Cook implodes, Apple should make Melissa Mayer an offer she can't refuse. One way or another, she is destined to be the next Steve Jobs.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dennis B. Swaney]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 11:04:23 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dennis B. Swaney)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Sounds like my original post at the beginning is true.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Peter Hillman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:21:59 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Peter Hillman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The 21.5" model iMac is a crippled design.  RAM is not upgradable by the user.  You have to do a build to order at the time of purchase if you want more memory.  The hard drive is a crippled 5,400 rpm laptop drive.  It is ridiculous what Apple is doing.  I don't care how thin my desktop computer is, I don't carry it around.  When I look at my 2011 27", I don't see the sides, nor do I care how thin or thick it is.  The new 27" model is not crippled as much as the 21.5.  The 27 still has user accessible RAM slots and  a desktop-class 7,200 RPM hard drive.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dennis B. Swaney]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:59:27 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dennis B. Swaney)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Well there still is the division between the "Consumer" product and the "Pro" product lines:<br><br> Pro Desktop Line: Mac Pro<br> <br> Pro Laptop Line: MacBook Pro<br><br> Consumer Desktop: iMac & Mac Mini<br><br> Consumer Laptop: MacBook Air]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:56:43 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I don't see that as a major issue unless you're dealing with government-level secrets. The simple fact of the matter is that if you're that concerned about security, you're using FileVault 2 to encrypt the entire disk to start, and when you dispose of the Mac, you're going to use Disk Utility to do a multi-pass erase that writes zeroes to every block. That combination will meet the requirements of nearly any organization, and if it doesn't, they'll just destroy the entire computer.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dennis B. Swaney]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:53:23 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dennis B. Swaney)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[My main concern is how to remove the HD & SSD for privacy protection when disposing of a dead iMac (Late 2012).]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Joan Miller]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:13:42 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Joan Miller)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I suspect the problem with too many lines of laptops is temporary.  Once SSD prices drop a bit more and the next generation of processors become available, I would expect Apple to drop the legacy MacBooks Pro 13 and 15.  Similarly for the iPad 2.  That will leave them with 4 laptops, a Mac mini line, the iMac line, 2 iPads.  And maybe a Mac Pro.  Not so bad.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Shameer Mulji]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13350?rss#comments_16277</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:59:38 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Shameer Mulji)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I don't know if you've seen screen shots, from all angles, of the iMac but it's not as thin as people think. Yes, the edge of the screen is only 5mm but go have a look at the side view. It bulges like a tear drop design. It's like an illusion really.<br><br>And how do you know they struggled with getting the screen bonding to work? I don't recall hearing that or reading it anywhere]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Andreas Frick]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 09:51:07 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Andreas Frick)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I would like to see more Macs with anti-glare display. I couldn't understand Apple's move to glossy displays. In a stationary Mac I still expect a DVD-drive, but of better quality (mine has broken).]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Bob T]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:14:14 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Bob T)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm an engineer, so I know something about technical design. The thinner a computer is, the more tightly packed the components, the hotter it will run, the more likely something will fail. This is just basic "laws of physics" stuff. In addition, the fact that they had to struggle with getting the "screen bonding" process to work is another indication that they're on the hairy edge of this thing failing (e.g. screen delaminating over time, air bubbles appearing, etc). Of course it looks cool, but let's face it, the older iMac looked extremely cool also (dare I say, "cool enough"?). By pushing the packaging envelope in this way, Apple has sacrificed reliability and robustness, just to go from "ridiculously thin" to "insanely thin". And who ultimately pays the price? We do -- either by having to pay for Apple Care to protect our failure-prone new toy, or (if we roll the dice) by very possibly having to replace it years before we should have had to. I would personally MUCH rather have an iMac that is less thin, has an optical drive, and will let me sleep at night not worrying that I'm "on the edge of failure" with my new toy. Plus, I look at my computer from the FRONT (doesn't everyone?) -- when will I ever even see how insanely thin it is, and when will I care??]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13350?rss#comments_16270</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:09:38 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[What, Macs need servicing? :-) <br><br>I do think that miniaturization is completely at odds with serviceability and we're just going to see more of that.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Lee Wilkirson]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13350?rss#comments_16269</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:03:26 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Lee Wilkirson)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Apparently, configuring the new Mac Mini Server with a 256GB SSD removes BOTH of the 1TB hard drives. Nor can it be configured with the new Fusion drive. There seems to be no way to configure it with both an SSD and an HD, this is a severe restriction compared to the previous model.<br><br>Also, comparing the Mini Server configurations with the $799 Mini configurations makes it seem that Apple is charging $100 for the OS X Server software, which is sold for $20 in the Mac App Store.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dennis B. Swaney]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2012 19:48:34 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dennis B. Swaney)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that the iMac is becoming close to being a small appliance like a toaster. When it breaks, just toss it and buy another. Serviceability is more and more not a concern.]]></description>
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