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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Mysterious iOS 6 Cellular Data Usage: A Deeper Look</title>
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		<description>The tales of unwanted cell data usage in iOS 6 grow ever more numerous and ever more alarming. Even though we can’t put our finger on a single cause, the problem is plainly all too real, and, for some users, all too costly.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 00:00:00 EDT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:28:16 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Our AirPort base station went offline last night, and Tonya's iPhone chewed through 380 MB of cell data before we woke up. Podcasts isn't on the iPhone any more, and she had reset the networking settings the day before. Something is clearly still happening in iOS 6.1.3.<br><br>AT&T happily refunded her the money when she asked, but then forwarded her to a tech support guy who cluelessly blamed it on weather apps, news apps, and automatic updates. It's clearly a bug in iOS 6, and whatever Apple has done to solve it for some people, it keeps coming back to haunt others.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:21:42 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[This article also points a finger at some sort of problem related to an Exchange account - the affected iOS devices were checking via Wi-Fi and cellular every 2-3 seconds. It's not universal, but if you're still seeing data problems and have an Exchange account (which could be for Google too!), consider disabling it to see if that helps.<br><br>This is likely unrelated to any changes in iOS 6.0.2, but this guy found significantly battery drain and data usage with an Exchange account, so anyone experiencing problems and using an Exchange account should look into that.<br><br><a href="http://snnyc.com/2012/12/iphone-data-leak/">http://snnyc.com/2012/12/iphone-data-leak/</a>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Ben Ing]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 22:53:14 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Ben Ing)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, it was overnight 2 days before the end of the month. I'd love to read through the Apple discussions about this if you have any links or search terms. <br>I too am happy that AT&T reversed the charges, but I am concerned with the same issues in the future, especially after getting the warnings. Luckily, I have been grandfathered in with an unlimited data plan that has carried forward since my first iPad, and was attached to my iPad 3. It was a hassle due to the new microSIM, but I went to an AT&T and had them swap SIMs since my iPad mini is now my primary device (still holding on to the iPad3 though, along with my Apple Wireless keyboard. <br>I had considered moving the unlimited plan over to the shared plan since I rarely got through much more than 2 or 3 GB/month (the charge is a wash), but after this escapade I'll be holding on to my unlimited data plan as long as I can.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from John vivian]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:33:26 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (John vivian)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I innocently accepted a download of IOS 6 on an employer supplied iPad 2. The first month my data usage was up over 500 percent. The office manager pointed it out to me. My usage pattern had not changed. The second month I was presented with a bill by my employer for  $155 for excess data charges. If this cant be fixed I'm turning the thing in.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Matt Neuburg]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:36:03 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Matt Neuburg)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Did this happen on or about the last day of the month? If so, this is probably a different and long-standing issue with AT&T, and not the new iOS 6 behaviors discussed in this article. It's happened to me and to many others, and there are long threads on Apple Discussions about it. My cynical theory is that it's just a cheat by AT&T to see if they can get some extra money; if you complain, they wipe the charge and no harm done, but if you don't, they make some free dollars. Some people have a more technical explanation (they are updating some kind of phone-related firmware or software during the night but accidentally charging you) but I don't buy it.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 08:03:33 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Gah! Well, regardless of who's lying, it's AT&T who would be charging you, so it was good they reversed the charges. But shutting down apps at night is just plain nuts - just as turning off cellular while you're connected to Wi-Fi is nuts.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Ben Ing]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:42:57 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Ben Ing)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[After I received my iPad mini AT&T LTE a couple of weeks ago i decided to move to the 6GB shared data plan since we had run into a couple of minor overages on my kids' iPhones, A couple of days before my billing date, I woke up to  multiple AT&T overage messages even though I had been using wifi and was within 6 feet of my Airport. Checking the usage on myATT I saw that I had used 13 GB. Calling AT&T, they told me the iPad switched over to cell data when it was asleep and an app must have run in the background. Looking through the AT&T logs, it said i was downloading approx. 19.5 MB every minute from 10:00 pm until I woke up at 7:00 am! Luckily, they reversed the charges, warning me to shut down all applications overnight to prevent any inadvertent charges. Now, here's the strange part - when I check cell usage in the Apple about window it says I have downloaded a total of 2.3GB (never reset because it's new), while myATT shows 14 GB. So who's lying?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Matt Neuburg]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:59:17 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Matt Neuburg)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm not talking about tens of megabytes and less. I'm talking about experiences like this one: https://discussions.apple.com/message/20269095#20269095 These reports continue to pour in (37 pages of on this thread so far), and no, it is not fixed. Just because some people are not experiencing the issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist or isn't a serious issue.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:23:04 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Hmm, I'm not sure I can agree that Apple is in any way justified in adding features to iOS that will consume cellular data without my knowledge or permission. I can't see how that improves the user experience in any way, and if it were true that Apple has done this intentionally, I think they are opening themselves up for a a serious class action suit for causing excessive charges to what could be millions of users without warning.<br><br>Your story is a perfect example. I don't know how much your 500 MB pre-paid SIM cost, but is it a better experience that you got your apps updated right at that moment, or that you paid so many euros (and potentially had to fuss with getting another SIM) because Apple allowed a process that started on Wi-Fi to continue on cellular without permission? Seems to me that any user experience design decision that costs the user money without warning is the one that should be cut.<br><br>I have gone into app-level detail with the old version of DataMan Pro, and I can say with assurance that the Podcasts app will use megabytes (and up to tens of megabytes, but not hundreds) of data when it shouldn't. I haven't experienced the truly egregious data usages, though, so I haven't yet been able to identify the smoking gun for the larger usages.<br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 09:14:59 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Alas, it is not true that the hundreds of megabytes and gigabytes of usage is a specific bug that was fixed - you're probably thinking of the Verizon-specific carrier settings that Apple released that is mentioned in the article. It likely addressed issues for Verizon users, but did nothing for everyone else.<br><br>A reader just sent us a usage chart from a friend of his who in the last year has used between 200 MB and 500 MB per month. In the last month (November on his chart), he used 2.9 GB. This particular guy doesn't care because he's retained his legacy unlimited data plan, but it seems fairly clear that something has changed in iOS 6.<br><br>And the reader who sent us that chart from his friend was doing so because he used 200 MB of data 7 days into his month with no change in habits.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Brian Hannon]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:27:36 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Brian Hannon)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'd argue that even worrying about tens of megabytes doesn't make sense anymore.  There's good reason that AT&T no longer sells a 200MB data plan.<br><br>It's my understanding that the hundreds of MB and GB usage that some people saw was a specific bug which Apple has fixed, related to switching / sharing between wifi and 4G. And that's not what Matt's talking about above.<br><br>The article above, and many of the comments, talk about tens of megabytes and less, and present an awful lot of speculation with very little actual data or even information about what features in iOS do.  I don't think it's really helpful.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Brian Hannon]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2012 05:25:22 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Brian Hannon)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[That's a good point and something you need to consider when choosing to stay with a legacy data plan that ties you largely to wifi. I think that by adding features in the new version of iOS, Apple adds value which worth the increased data usage and it's why carriers are constantly upgrading their capacity. Sticking with 200MB would be, to me, like insisting a 28kbps modem is still okay when the rest of the world has gone to broadband. But that's a choice for you, and apparently, many users. You'll need to really go into detail with a data-monitoring app and figure out which of the features you can't afford to use.<br><br>I've been in Europe this month working with a 500MB limit prepaid SIM (most months in the US I easily burn 2-4GB).  I've been surprised if I limit my use of mapping and social networking I can keep to 10-30MB/day. But then I hit "update all" apps while in my office and 15 min later walked to lunch losing the wifi and spent 100+MB all at once. Whoops!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Matt Neuburg]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:33:36 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Matt Neuburg)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[200MB/mo was plenty under iOS 5; I never came close to hitting that limit. If iOS 6 puts me in constant danger of hitting the limit, then something has radically changed for the worse - and that's the point, since this is exactly what has happened to many users.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 10:17:35 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[You're absolutely right that worrying about tens of kilobytes is silly, but that's not what's at issue here. We're talking about usage patterns in the tens and hundreds of megabytes, and some people are seeing usage in the gigabytes range.<br><br>200 MB per month was just fine under iOS 5 for me and many others. Many people do not use significant data outside of Wi-Fi range and don't see the need to double their monthly data bills for no change in behavior.<br><br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Brian Hannon]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2012 09:53:35 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Brian Hannon)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Some of this seems to be intentional and directly related to the user experience. For example, leaving Skype running, of course I want it to update my status, know when I receive an IM, and know when somebody is trying to call. To do that, it needs data, whether I've never moved from my desk where, presumably, it's been connected to wifi all day (though not for sure, wifi isn't 100% reliable) or whether I'm out and about when much of the time I'm on cell data.<br><br>I have dozens upon dozens of Apps, many of which need the same type of "constant" connectivity as described above for Skype. In addition to system-level things from Apple: if one of my friends wants to know where I am, FindFriends is gonna access data, cell triangulation, and GPS all without me knowing about it.<br><br>Frankly, 200MB/mo isn't enough for a good modern experience, unless you never leave your house. And if you do go out you should use the "cellular data" switch in settings. Worrying about apps using tens of K is silly.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Greg C]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 20:13:21 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Greg C)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Back when I first got my iPhone 4, there was plenty of data "leakage" that I could not explain.<br><br>After turning all notifications off and all cellular data options off, I was still getting leakages that said I was using close to 1MB in a single day, without even touching the phone. I presume there must be some data transfer in order to establish connections with cell towers. Riding on subways that establish and lose connections at every stop was what I put it down to, but that is just a guess.<br><br>If Apple is using cellular to boost poor wi-fi or switching to cellular when out of wi-fi range, even with cellular options turned off, well that is the stuff of lawsuits.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Bokonon]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 02:12:24 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Bokonon)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[How can a podcast be 1gb.  I also have watched vimeo movies over cellular and it says that my usage was 200 mb for a movie that in the download section is no bigger than 45 MB. This is bull and I'm getting pissed.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Freek Dijkstra]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13354?rss#comments_16435</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 08:31:32 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Freek Dijkstra)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Dale, would you mind publishing these screenshots?<br><br>On a related note, those who have not done so: Apple released iOS6.0.1 last Thursday (<a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1606">http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1606</a> ), which include these bug fixes:<br><br>• Resolves an issue that prevents iPhone from using the cellular network in some instances<br><br>• Consolidated the Use Cellular Data switch for iTunes Match]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dale]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 14:01:55 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dale)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[As suggested in the article one approach to track approximate data usage is Settings &gt; General &gt; Usage &gt; Cellular Usage. In my experience, however, even this tool is totally meaningless.<br><br>I have attempted to use this tool several times on my iPhone 4s while traveling internationally on a limited roaming plan.  After resetting the data to zero the amount of data usage measured does increase.  So far, so good. However, I have sometimes checked and seen the numbers DECREASE from their previous values, often by tens of megabytes.  Later on they will be up again. Then down.  It makes no sense whatsoever.<br><br>I started to wonder if I was just imagining this or losing my mind so I started taking screenshots of that page every few hours.  I now have a chronological series of screenshots that show that I'm right.  Data values are all over the place and often as not go down and not up!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Steve Rothman]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2012 11:16:55 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Steve Rothman)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I haven't heard of this problem - but I think APP UPDATES can slam users. I got hit with a mysterious 400GB data usage with my iPhone 6 (Verizon) one evening in the space of about two hours when I wasn't really doing anything with the phone except for light email. No proof, but I believe what happened is that I had initiated the updates of several apps (including nav apps with big maps) that morning while I was on WiFi - but the updates stalled and I didn't think any more about it. I keep my cell data off during the day because my office has great wifi. But then in the evening I turned it on so I could check my email during my commute - and I think in the space of a couple hours LTE sucked down several huge app upgrades. Users definitely need better/easier control of cell-data usage!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:14:26 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, I just ran across Onavo Count too and am testing it against the others... It's a very different approach with the two profiles it installs - we'll see if it can provide the app-centric data we need.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Freek Dijkstra]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:14:04 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Freek Dijkstra)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[There are so many better ways. As Matt clearly pointed out, there should be a global option to limit the cellular data usage. Here are a few suggestions for useful options:<br><br>* Limit the amount of cellular data per day/week/month, and automatically turn it off when the limit is exceeded.<br>* Only allow cellular data for the frontmost application (disable eg email push on the road, unless you check manually; also disables background syncs).<br><br>(Advice I got from the Apple engineer: tap home button twice to see the open applications. Press and hold to force quit.)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Freek Dijkstra]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13354?rss#comments_16393</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 12:05:44 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Freek Dijkstra)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The problem is also taking place in Australia, UK and the Netherlands. The main issue is that iOS does not tell the user it's using the expensive cellular connection. Same with Facetime and iMessage -- everytime you turn on your phone, it sends an expensive SMS abroad to 00447786205094. (Edit: OK, "expensive" it isn't, typically $0.30 or so. I was a bit annoyed with Apple's policy when I wrote this. Added iMessage next to FaceTime.)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Bruce Hiland]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:28:11 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Bruce Hiland)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[We had this problem in spades on one of our two iPhone 4's upgraded to ios6. The major culprit turned out to be the "documents and data" setting on iCloud which bypasses wifi running up the data usage dramatically.<br>Apple really needs to re-think all the "gee whiz" features impact on their customers' data budgets! Long overdue!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Freek Dijkstra]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:09:50 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Freek Dijkstra)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[FYI, I found another App that counts the network usage *per application* (like DataMan Pro), called Onavo count. It's free but does ask for your provider and installs a profile with a custom APN (cellular data configuration).<br><br>My provider contacted Apple, who replied "there is no known problem".<br>I also phoned Apple. Their advice was to turn of "Wifi and cellular". Surprising, since that feature was removed from beta. It's not in the final release of iOS 6. After telling him that, he suggested to turn off "Cellular data" altogether. The person I talked to agreed that was not an ideal solution (to say the least), but I don't have the illusion that his opinion has any say upstream at Apple.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Larry Deckel]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:59:42 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Larry Deckel)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[By the way - I am on AT&T.<br>And interestingly, for the last week, logging into the AT&T site to check my data usage I get a message saying they cannot give me details of my data usage.<br>I wonder if AT&T and apple are trying to work out what is happening.     (I do know however, by asking for my data usage over the phone (rather than the website), that the consumption almost completely stopped after I deleted apple's podcast app.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Larry Deckel]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:56:07 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Larry Deckel)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I have experienced large amounts of cellular data being used at roughly the same time each evening, while at home where I have Wi-Fi.  This happened every night.  Based on some troubleshooting tips I read about - I deleted apple's Podcast application - and lo and behold, the nightly pulls of cell data stopped immediately.<br><br>There's no question in my mind that apples podcasting app is using cellular data without permission, even when wi-fi is available.  Not sure why its doing this as my subscribed podcasts should only be updating once a week anyway (I only subscribe to a couple).  But it seems the app either downloads the same podcasts every night, or does something that requires pulling a lot of data via the cellular network every night. Even when wi-fi is available and I've explicitly asked it NOT to use cellular data.<br><br>Deleting the app solved the problem for me completely.<br>(FYI -- I do not have iTunes match turned on, on my phone - so happily, that wasn't a contributing factor.)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from JohnB (SciFiOne)
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:03:39 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (JohnB (SciFiOne)
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			<description><![CDATA[Gives me a reference point to compare against after I start using iOS 6 in a couple of weeks.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from JohnB (SciFiOne)
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 19:02:06 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (JohnB (SciFiOne)
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			<description><![CDATA[I agree. It's only about 100KB/day. A very small amount of  even the minumum cell package.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Freek Dijkstra]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:51:58 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Freek Dijkstra)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I found another one:<br>Settings &gt; iCloud &gt;Documents & Data &gt; Use Cellular Data]]></description>
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