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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on iTunes 11 Interface Innovations: Good and Bad, but Not Ugly</title>
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		<description>iTunes 11 brings with it an attractive new interface, which Adam Engst suspects may inform the interfaces of future versions of OS X and its bundled applications. But while some of these changes (the return of color and larger fonts, in particular) are generally welcome, other changes in iTunes 11 are more troubling.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 00:00:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Michael McCathy]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:36:55 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Michael McCathy)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I went up to iTunes 11 - lasted about 3 days - couldn't do anything with ease - tried all the forums for tips and workarounds - hated it even more - removed it - reinstalled iTunes 10 and realised how good it was. Apple just stop fixing things that AIN'T BROKE! They seem to have employed an infernal meddler. Sack 'em!<br><br>I also regret moving to Lion but too late to go back to Snow Leopard which was a smooth operating system. It's all part of the corporate plan to get everyone and all the software onto the wretched CLOUD - then they will control everything and have nobody able to produce cheaper software.<br><br>The latest is definitely no longer the greatest as far as Apple are concerned.<br><br>Say NO to the CLOUD!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Curtis Wilcox]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 12:23:34 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Curtis Wilcox)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[If a playlist isn't playing in the order displayed, it's because Shuffle is enabled. When you're looking at a playlist, the name of the list is displayed in large text at the top. If you click the right-pointing triangle, it'll start playing from the first track. If you click the next icon, a pair of arrows that crossover, it will play the tracks in a random, "shuffled" order. There's also a shuffle icon to the right of the progress bar and time remaining. If that shuffle icon is blue, that means shuffle is enabled and the next track played will be random. If you click the blue shuffle link, it will turn off shuffling.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Pam Niedermayer]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:46:35 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Pam Niedermayer)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm not sure what a shuffled playlist is; but when I make a playlist, I expect the songs to play in the order listed. NOT in 11. This Up Next thing is ridiculous. When I clear because it's playing songs out of my order, it no longer plays beyond the current song.<br><br>Why do I need to replicate work I've already done? If Apple wants to make the order played as stated in Up Next, then the least they can do is preserve my order across upgrades.<br><br>I don't want to use iCloud. I don't use iPhones or iPads. I just want iTunes to behave logically on my MacBook.<br><br>I'm kicking myself now. In the beginning I was reluctant because I figured Apple would make great efforts to take away my app and my music along with it. Now they've done that, and I've got to find other toys.<br><br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:58:35 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'll bet playlist functionality is available for books largely because of audiobooks; it doesn't make much sense for other types of books.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Steve Moore]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:37:25 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Steve Moore)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Great Article!  Thanks.  Here's one I don't get:  In my list of books, if I hover over a book title a small indicator is displayed on which I can click. So, I click it.  A little pop up shows which says "Add To" (no ellipsis).  So, I click it.  The little window changes to show a list of playlists that I can add the book to.  Cool.  So, I add it to a playlist.  But, once added, even though it shows in the playlist I can't do anything with it.  It's a wash.  What was that for, I wonder...?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:10:18 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[There's a wonderful explication of how popovers are being used badly in this report at MacinTouch.<br><br><a href="http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/userinterfaceissues/index.html#d13dec2012">http://www.macintouch.com/readerreports/userinterfaceissues/index.html#d13dec2012</a>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from B. Jefferson Le Blanc]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 02:53:07 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (B. Jefferson Le Blanc)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[As someone with severely impaired vision (for all of my 67 years), my favorite screen display font is Verdana. It is larger than Helvetica at the same point size, the stroke weight is heavier and the default leading is wider. Even so, I noticed improved type visibility in iTunes 11 without knowing the exact changes involved. And there is a choice in the iTunes preferences to use large text for list views. If you need to see more data - and your eyes can handle it - you can turn off the large text option.<br><br>As for all the new buttons and navigation tools, I haven't made up my mind whether I like them or not. They will certainly take some getting used to. But I share Adam's dismay at the prospect of trying to teach others how to use the new iTunes. I've been reading articles like this one to learn as much as I can, but I doubt most Mac users will take the trouble.<br><br>So, like Adam, I think iTunes 11 is a mixed bag in regards to what it portends for changes in the OS X UI.  The gray interface came to iTunes 10 first before it infected the entire OS in OS X 10.7, Lion. I hope iTunes 11 presages the return of color to the Finder, but, at the same time, worry that the iTunes modal interface may be applied to it as well. That would indeed be a disaster. The Finder is not just another application. It's the very key to using the Mac OS. Tinkering with it is asking for trouble.<br><br>Now that Jonathan Ive is in charge of the entire Apple interface effort, it's anyone's guess whether he will restore usability as a paramount Apple value. Some of his designs, like the old Apple hockey puck mouse, have been less than stellar - despite Tim Cook's high opinion of Ive's taste. The new iMac is another case in point, where utterly pointless changes in form dictated, or permitted, a serious degradation in usability. I'm not at all clear that Ive can see a product from a user point of view. Elegance in industrial design is just vanity if it's not also useful.<br><br>I am one of the sullen grumblers of which Adam wrote in regard to our displeasure with the iTunes 10 interface. And I've not yet subsided into silence about the graying of the Finder in OS X. Given these examples, I remain skeptical of the quality of Apple's vision going forward. Tim Cook claims to be proud of how involved Apple customers are in providing feedback on Apple products. It remains to be seen if he sincerely gives a hoot or if he's just blowing smoke. If usability does not rise in Apple's esteem, in my not so humble opinion, smoke will be his legacy.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from sjk]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:37:55 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (sjk)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Unfortunately that's not an ideal workaround for retaining previous selection with video tracks.<br><br>Where the selection/focus will be when navigating between certain views/items in v11 is often challenging or seemingly impossible (for me) to reliably predict.  The amount of extra keyboard/mouse/trackpad interaction quickly became significant and frustrating.<br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:38:32 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[We should really take this discussion to the full article (more complete than Ted's) I wrote about the missing features in iTunes.<br><br><a href="http://tidbits.com/article/13432">http://tidbits.com/article/13432</a><br><br>I'd don't as yet understand how the Up Next feature isn't as useful as the shuffled playlists.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:35:56 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Actually, it might make a difference, since iTunes is integrated into the operating system, and it's entirely likely that Apple tested less in 10.6.8 compared to Lion and Mountain Lion.<br><br>Not to excuse it, of course!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Cameron]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 03:36:08 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Cameron)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Here's an article on features removed in version 11<br>http://www.macworld.com.au/help/troubleshooting-itunes-11-81906/<br><br>And a forum relating to the removal of shuffled playlists:<br>https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4574502?start=0&tstart=0]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from john Dunham]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 16:43:27 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (john Dunham)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm very disappointed with this version. Its extremely unstable and freezes continually making me force quit it many times a day. I'm stunned actually as I've never had a piece of Apple software perform so poorly. I'm still on 10.6.8 but that shouldn't make a difference.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 11:36:02 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Curious - I'm not seeing that. Cmd-L always shows me the currently playing song, regardless of where I've moved or scrolled to.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Cameron]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:46:46 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Cameron)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks Adam, would you mind checking this on your installation - maybe I have a configuration problem.  If I am playing a song from a playlist, and then view a different playlist, Cmd-L takes me back to the original playlist and to the song that's Now Playing. However if I am viewing a different part of the same playlist that the song playing is in, Cmd-L does nothing. It neither highlights the song nor moves the view to it.  So especially when I'm playing from the Library (of many thousand songs), it can take a lot of scrolling,  hunting around or sorting to find the track that's playing in order to rate it or add a comment, etc.<br><br>Thanks a lot]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:43:41 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I think Apple would say that the Up Next feature takes over from displaying playslists in shuffle order, unless there is something I'm missing.<br><br>And yes, that little curved arrow icon is gone, but the popover that appears from the now-playing frame when you click the right-pointing arrow next to the song title has options to jump to the song, album, and artist. Personally, I just use Cmd-L, which seems to work everywhere for me.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Cameron]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:00:48 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Cameron)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Lost functionality or am I daft?<br><br>Can we no longer display a playlist in Shuffle order?<br><br>Also, we used to be able to GoTo the song currently playing by clicking the curved-arrow icon beside the song name in the "now playing" frame at the top of the screen.  That's now replaced with a menu which is more tedious but I could live with that, if it actually worked. When the current song is not in the visible part of the list, and I press "Go to [song]", or Cmd-L, nothing happens.<br><br>Are customers meant to be happy about UI "improvements" that decrease productivity and simplicity...?<br><br>p.s. Thank you Adam for all the effort you put into sharing your knowledge with us - much appreciated :)]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:01:56 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Oh, that makes sense, given that the iTunes Store is basically a Web site, from the point of view of iTunes. So I'm not surprised it's setting cookies.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Diorite]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 11:30:19 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Diorite)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[iTunes will prompt for login password every time you open it if you or an application (e.g. Cookie) deletes Apple's cookies. It took me several weeks to figure out and get it fixed by making changes to my cookie manager application.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 06:19:58 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[You're right - and to make this more than just about a specific iTunes problem, that's the sort of lack of attention to interface detail that adds up over time.<br><br>As a workaround, start playing a song where you want to jump back to, and then use Cmd-L to locate the current song (you don't even have to switch back to Music first).]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 06:18:03 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yup, in our initial article, Agen notes that Radio appears as one of the center buttons in Music view.<br><br><a href="http://tidbits.com/article/13419">http://tidbits.com/article/13419</a>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from tingo]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 12:59:21 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (tingo)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Well, you're absolutely right, Curtis, thanks a lot!<br><br>“What I always do in Podcasts still works; Cmd+delete to remove selected podcasts. If it's an episode that has not been downloaded, it's simply gone, no confirmation, no sound effect.” I use Backsapace for the same purpose. What you state here also applies if the downloaded podcast file has been moved out of iTunes' Podcast folder]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Curtis Wilcox]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:52:56 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Curtis Wilcox)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The shortcut is not "Cmd+M," it's just "M." As is true of some (but not all) buttons in OS X modal dialogs, pressing the first letter of the button's name activates that button.<br><br>What I always do in Podcasts still works; Cmd+delete to remove selected podcasts. If it's an episode that has not been downloaded, it's simply gone, no confirmation, no sound effect. If it's one that was downloaded the usual modal dialog appears (Cancel, Keep File, Move to Trash) and pressing M activates the Move to Trash button and my system's move to trash sound plays.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from George Berger]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:46:42 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (George Berger)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm using iTunes 10.7 to access classical music stations via  "Radio" in the Library.  Does 11 still have access to these radio stations?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Curtis Wilcox]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 09:44:21 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Curtis Wilcox)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I think Miguel's complaints are related to iTunes Match iCloud. iTunes Match will replace matched MP3s with AACs. Files streamed from iCloud can't be dragged to the desktop but instead of clicking the "Download from iCloud" button, my guess is he discovered converting the file format also happens to create a local file that is draggable.<br><br>As for passwords, maybe he's not saving his Apple ID in the keychain? Also, if you had a bunch of protected files purchased with different Apple IDs, you could get a lot of password prompts (at least once per unique Apple ID) if you never played those files in a particular OS X account before.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from MrJeff2000]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 08:46:10 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (MrJeff2000)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[A quibble: In previous versions, whenever I clicked back to the MUSIC directory after going into a playlist (or Podcasts or whatever), I was returned to where I had left off – let's say the Artists around L.<br><br>Now, you are returned to the top of your directory... That's a lot of extra scrolling if my son is looking for songs to add to a playlist, checking the playlist, and then returning to the Music directory.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Chris Lozac'h]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 07:16:58 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Chris Lozac'h)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the rundown! After seeing that disappearing menu button trick, I'm going to add a new step to my family-phone-support routine: step 1, put iTunes into full screen mode!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Kendall]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:30:19 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Kendall)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It was a music video, but anyway...(shrug)...I buy few music videos, but when I do, I leave them in iTunes.  (Other content too, for that matter.)  Not sure how that relates to my Q, though.  ;-)  As I said, I bet it does the same thing going from playlist A to trying to shuffle playlist B--no reason to think it doesn't--but I'm at home and only installed the new iTunes on my laptop, which is at work, so I haven't tried that yet.  I will try that soon though!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from tingo]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:51:24 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (tingo)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Videos: what is it that iTunes does that Quick Time Player or VLC can't do?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from tingo]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:48:03 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (tingo)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Have done, but it's the last time too. Their bug reporting doesn't work in Firefox, so I had to start by reporting a bug in the bug reporting in their totally bizarre mail format. It did work–strenuously–in Safari, after having to login three times in a row with my Apple&nbsp;ID.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 08:40:50 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Aha! The difference is that I store my iTunes Media folder on a server, so the files can't be moved to the trash, they must be deleted immediately. iTunes detects that and changes the button name.<br><br>When I reset my location to the local disk, the button changes to Move to Trash and doesn't work with Cmd-M, as you say. So yes, it's a bug. I recommend filing it at <a href="http://bugreport.apple.com/">http://bugreport.apple.com/</a>]]></description>
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