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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Get the TidBITS News App for iOS 4.2 and iOS 5 Now</title>
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		<description>A new version of the free TidBITS News app will require iOS 6, so if you ever want to use it on a device restricted to iOS 4.2 or iOS 5, download a copy now if you haven’t done so already.</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 00:00:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:43:28 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It's hard to say exactly what will happen, since Apple doesn't make this stuff obvious, but I believe that if you have only an older device, you simply won't get the update. So the only worry is if you have an older device and a newer device, since Apple doesn't make any acknowledgement of wanting two different versions in such a situation.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from david cuddy]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 12:25:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (david cuddy)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yep - you're quite right. I hadn't thought about the case of TidBITS newcomers (with iOS6) preferentially finding the 1.4 release and downloading it.  That indeed would be a problem for you.<br><br>When do get around to posting 1.5, please be sure to include a HEADLINE 'above the fold' indicating that it's only compatible with iOS6. That will help keep iOS5 users from accidentally blowing away the 1.4 version they require.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from e]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13446?rss#comments_16946</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2012 07:19:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[unless you jailbreak your device, of course.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13446?rss#comments_16917</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:00:37 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The problem is that people with iOS 6 will find the old version, and probably find it preferentially, since it has ratings and downloads, and they will be able to download and install it because it runs in iOS 6, albeit with problems caused by the text layout changes. And that then will generate either bad reviews or complaint email to us, neither of which make us happy.<br><br>The only people who will be unable to take advantage of TidBITS News on an iOS 4.2 or iOS 5 device (which are getting scarcer and scarcer) are those who have never downloaded version 1.4 before 1.5 comes out. Since 1.4 has been out for almost 2 years, and since we've alerted all current readers to download within the next few weeks, I just can't see too many people being in a situation where they suddenly want version 1.4 without having gotten it during its 2-year run. <br><br>It's not as if it's a commercial app, and Apple doesn't prevent you from downloading it even if you don't currently have the necessary device, so anyone who ever thinks they might want it should go get it now, just in case.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from david cuddy]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:21:20 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (david cuddy)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Matt,<br>My experience is different than yours. I have lost older versions of apps several times.   iTunes will happily download a new version onto my Mac (wiping out the old one), oblivious to the fact that I still need the old version on one of my synced iDevices. That leaves the only instance of the old version resident on the iDevice. If I should ever have to delete the app on the iDevice and reinstall (to clear a bug, recover the entire device, etc), I'm screwed. <br><br>Of course, if one has a backup (and I do), one can go back in time to find the old version of the app that iTunes deleted. Except when Time Machine sparsebundle suffers a verification failure (like it does every few months), wipes out the entire backup history, and starts over from scratch.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from david cuddy]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:07:23 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (david cuddy)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Adam - I agree with Matt: it's a good idea (to keep a 'Classic' version posted).  I don't understand the 'more trouble than it's worth' comment. The current TidBits app has been out in wild for quite a while, is solid with (I'm sure) few bug reports coming in. So the overhead to maintain it has got to be pretty low if you kept it listed. True, there's a chance a few newcomers with iOS 6 might inadvertently download the Classic version with iTunes, and then find it doesn't install onto their iDevice. They will quickly realize they need the New&Improved version. Fortunately, Tidbit readers tend to be pretty astute, and can be counted on to read the instructions you'd include in each app's description.<br><br>Increasingly, Apple's behavior exhibits a belief (wish) that everybody upgrades their iDevices  as soon as each release comes out. Apple has overlooked the fact that in some parts of the world (like mine), we are locked into THREE YEAR iPhone contracts. We can't update to a new iPhone (and iOS) every two years without paying exhorbitant fess to break the cellular contract. That means a larger proportion of users with older devices that can't (practicably) be updated when every new iOS comes out.  I hope you won't similarly abandon that segment of the community the way Apple has.<br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:21:49 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Lots of Mac developers, but it's not possible to do that with iOS apps because Apple only allows general distribution via the App Store. :-(]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Susan Kayser]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:17:56 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Susan Kayser)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Could you keep the 1.4 version on your own website, for download by latecomers to TidBits with older hardware? Lots of developers do that.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:30:37 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Matt's right - we pondered it, but it seemed like more trouble than it was worth, given that most people who need the older version are probably reading TidBITS now and can just go get it now. With this warning, hopefully everyone who wants it can get it, so taking it away in a few weeks won't be a major liability.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Matt Neuburg]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 11:11:11 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Matt Neuburg)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yes, good idea, and I did mention that to Adam as an option. But we decided against it. I can't even remember now what our reasoning was! But it might have to do with the fact that the new version has no new features to speak of; it's really just the same app, modernized under the hood. Also, leaving the old version available for iOS 6 users to download and install and experience the bug just makes us look bad. The truth is that Apple's App Store mechanism leaves us no great choices here; whatever we do will be bad in one way or another.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from mathom]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 10:30:56 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (mathom)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Why not continue to offer the older version as a separate app with "classic" or some such added to the title? The developer of my favorite grocery list app (Bread and Milk) has done that when some new features upset users.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Matt Neuburg]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13446?rss#comments_16875</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:10:21 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Matt Neuburg)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[That's not my experience. When I stayed with iOS 5, no iOS 6-only apps were transferred to my device; when I updated it to iOS 6, they were. I have never seen an app version too new to run on my device wipe out and render inoperable an older operating version.<br><br>Nor does the article suggest that this might happen. It's not about the newer version of the app overriding the older version on your device; it's about *obtaining* the older version in the first place.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dan O'Donnell]]></title>
			<link>http://db.tidbits.com/article/13446?rss#comments_16873</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:01:13 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dan O'Donnell)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It would not be hard for Apple to qualify devices by iOS and app version compatibility and then not allow them to download and replace the existing and still functional older apps. Apple ignores this. Very infuriating.]]></description>
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