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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Examining Apple’s Security Efforts in 2012</title>
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		<description>2012 was a watershed year for Apple’s security efforts. While dealing with significant challenges, the company made strong advances, setting the stage for strong security for years to come.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:00:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from mike sanders]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 20:35:40 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (mike sanders)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Totally agree with David Morrison, this has happened to me twice this year already and at 74 years old I have a serious problem remembering anything that didn't happen this morning.<br>My solution David, have several accounts and sow confusion.<br>I love all of my aapl products and have done so since 1987 but it doesn't hurt to point out the flaws albeit in a non spiteful "hate everything apple" way like some contributors to this forum.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Andre Gironda]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:15:48 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Andre Gironda)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Test it for yourself. Don't believe Apple. Does it work? I can unsafely say that "no", none of the statements from Apple are truth at all. I have tested this. It does not work as advertised.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Morrison]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 21:49:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Morrison)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Apple may have made a lot of progress with security on its devices and communicating with its stores, but there is one area that is still sadly lacking. That area is the systems that support all of this wonderful stuff.<br><br>For one, there was the story a few months ago about the fellow whose iCloud account had been hijacked and used to destroy a lot of his data. Ok, that has been tightened up on now, I understand, but....<br><br>Yesterday, I tried to buy an app on the Mac App Store, using a Mac I have been using to buy apps since I bought it in September. I had also been using it on the iTunes Store. It told me that since this was the "first time I had used this device with the App Store", I had to answer my security questions.<br><br>So problem 1: It had either forgotten that I had used this Mac before, or perhaps had not noticed it was new until yesterday. Not good.<br><br>Then problem 2: The security questions it asked me were not the questions I had set up. Oops.<br><br>It said that if I could not remember the answers, I should go to appleid.apple.com which I did.<br><br>Problem 3: I logged in with my AppleID and it wanted to know the answers to my security questions. Ummm, that was why I was there.....<br><br>So I rang Apple and a very helpful advisor tried to reset everything to how it had been. He couldn't look at all my details.<br><br>Problem 4: He said one part of the system was telling him that I had supplied him enough confidential info to allow him to look at my account, and another part was telling him I hadn't.<br><br>In the end, he managed to get the account set up with no security information at all, and I had to re-enter it all.<br><br>So here we come to...<br><br>Problem 5: The questions it offers are the most stupid things imaginable. Maybe teenagers may be able to remember the answers, but anyone over 40 is going to have a hard time remembering unambiguously the first dish they ever cooked (breakfast cereal, toast?), the name of their favourite teacher (I cannot remember any of my teachers' names), their favourite car (I have had a number), the street they grew up in (I lived in several) and so on.<br><br>The whole point of security questions is that they be things you can remember instinctively, so they don't have to be written down. As it is, I had to make up answers with no connection to the questions. This is probably not a bad approach to security in some senses, but since the answers are not instinctive, I have had to write down the questions and answers. And in fact because I may need them while travelling, I have had to put them in a file on the Internet.<br><br>The security questions I originally had were custom questions I entered along with the answers. They were things I would never forget. This option is not available once you have your Apple ID. But - the advisor told me - if you are creating a new AppleID, you *can* make up your own questions.<br><br>So the issues are: Apple's systems had a "glitch" that wiped my security information, their so-called "security improvements" actually made security worse, and their systems are inconsistent in what they ask.<br><br>The back end systems are all a part of "security", and that bit still seems to need a lot of work.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Nicholas Barnard]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:23:25 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Nicholas Barnard)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[There is Chrome as well. Apple has let other browsers onto iOS, although their marketshare is minimal....]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Minus van Baalen]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 13:54:38 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Minus van Baalen)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[No Firefox, but there is iCabMobile!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Scott Jordan]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:15:57 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Scott Jordan)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA["When a file is opened, its metadata is decrypted with the file system key, revealing the wrapped per-file key and a notation on which class protects it. The per-file key is unwrapped with the class key, then supplied to the hardware AES engine, which decrypts the file as it is read from flash memory.<br><br>"The metadata of all files in the file system are encrypted with a random key, which is created when iOS is first installed or when the device is wiped by a user. The file system key is stored in Effaceable Storage. Since it’s stored on the device, this key is not used to maintain the confidentiality of data; instead, it’s designed to be quickly erased on demand (by the user, with the 'Erase all content and settings' option, or by a user or administrator issuing a remote wipe command from a Mobile Device Management server, Exchange ActiveSync, or iCloud). Erasing the key in this manner renders all files cryptographically inaccessible."  From Apple in May: http://tinyurl.com/7kc6s58]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Kevin Keane]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2012 03:31:25 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Kevin Keane)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Great article. I think Apple has a number of additional security issues of their own making, though.<br><br>First, Apple is creating a monoculture by prohibiting competing Web browsers on iOS. When Internet Explorer 6 suffered serious security vulnerabilities, users could move to Firefox. With Safari, there is no choice.<br><br>Second, iOS devices lack an important security feature: the ability to turn the power off - the battery is in a sealed case that cannot be opened without special tools. Removing power is the only 100% reliable and verifiable way for a user to erase data from DRAM.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Rich Mogull]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:58:30 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Rich Mogull)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I agree- not using sandboxing for their app store apps is a big issue, and I should have dinged them on it.<br><br>Vulnerabilities are always a problem. For Apple, this is especially true of the open source components they use in the OS that may get patched before Apple patches. <br><br>My focus in this piece is that Apple, like Microsoft (who is better at it), are going after disrupting malware economics. This won't prevent smaller and targeted attacks, but *will* materially reduce the risk for the entire user base.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Andre Gironda]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:40:12 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Andre Gironda)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[There is no full disk encryption, even when using the DPAPI and even when a strong password is set.<br><br>It's also possible to dump the memory using DMA techniques such as the newly released Elcomsoft Forensic Disk Decryptor. The DRAM memory will likely contain all of the key material.<br><br>All versions of all Apple iOS devices will broadcast personal data out of their data ports. All app data can be read. All versions of all apps can be seen. Even IF the files are encrypted with the DPAPI or otherwise, the names of the files can be seen. I don't think you understand how much data is actually available, but check it out for yourself using these tools and methods -- http://linuxsleuthing.blogspot.com/2011/05/open-source-iphone-exploits.html<br><br>It's also possible to gain access to the kernel and userland memoryspaces by installing a malicious app from the App Store, or through an exploitable app such as the browser -- http://securecoding.sudo.rm-f.org/archives/2012/09/27/iphone_safari_crash]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from kevin]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 14:21:29 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (kevin)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I thought at some point (iOS 5 maybe?) Apple changed to full disk encryption when a passcode is set. That's why it could erase so quickly by discarding the decrypt key. Is it really still just for apps that use the API?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Robert]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 12:34:46 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Robert)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[He said that Apple defined the tablet category.  I think it would be pretty hard to argue otherwise.  If you want to disagree, at least disagree with what Rich actually said.<br><br>Oh, and as for sales, I thought the whole point of selling stuff was to make money.  I think most businesses (the ones that stay in business, anyway), would consider the dollar value of sales to be kind of important.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Mark]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:31:40 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Mark)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Wow, revisionist history.  So Apple invented the laptop, the smartphone and the tablet?  Really?  I don't think so.  And they don't "dominate in sales".  Maybe they dominate in sales DOLLARS, but not sales counts.<br><br>Those comments turned me off right away.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Pierre Lebeaupin]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:24:36 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Pierre Lebeaupin)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[What still worries me (and it is hard to know of improvement in this area) are the potential vulnerabilities in high-level Apple software included in Mac OS X or iOS, typically applications. Things like the Safari RSS vulnerability or ARDAgent loophole (linking to Foundation from a suid binary is a bad idea, who knew?), which have shown Apple has not necessarily been good at preventing vulnerabilities from being introduced in its own software development. Fundamental Unix security and core OS security features like ASLR are good, mind, but they are not enough.<br><br>This is doubly worrying as Apple is clearly not eating its own dogfood with sandboxing, or at least not as much as they are asking third-party developers to do so.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Rich Mogull]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:09:31 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Rich Mogull)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Dre,<br><br>We have had many of these discussions in person and we clearly disagree. I'll leave it at that, and we can talk about it more next time we see each other.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Andre Gironda]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:38:18 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Andre Gironda)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I disagree. All weaknesses on all Apple software products (including the latest ones) suffer the same fate: They have shared kernel and user memory spaces that are vulnerable to modern ROP/BO attacks; They do not have Shatter attack protection; They do not have a GINA or modern Credential Provider.<br><br>Worst of all: when the data is at rest (i.e. when it should be LEAST vulnerable), all Apple devices can be made to cough up most or all data that resides on their SSDs or NAND flash -- let alone DRAM.<br><br>All of these other protections you mention matter little in light of the entry points and associated attack surface that I have described above.<br><br>OS X and iOS are not SELinux. They are not GRSecurity. They are not Windows Server 2012. Apple has not come a long way.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Michael E. Cohen]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:40:50 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Michael E. Cohen)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Great post, Rich: fair and well stated. It's one that I'll direct people to as a corrective whenever I encounter a breathless "Oh, no, Apple security sux and we're all going to DIE!!" linkbait story.]]></description>
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