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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Pages 4.3 vs. BBEdit 10.5: How Apple Doesn’t Respect Its Users</title>
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		<description>A pair of technical problems — Pages 4.3 changing its graphics handling in EPUB and BBEdit 10.5 introducing a bug into its Search and Replace Automator action — cause Adam Engst to reflect on how the companies in question view their users.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:00:00 EST</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from William Lisowski]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 10:37:47 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (William Lisowski)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[When you suggest writing up a support case, that's limited to developers, right? Because as a non-developer cruising support.apple.com, I haven't found where I would do that. If I've been missing an opportunity all these years, I'd like to know. Or should I just register as a developer? What does it take?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Buckley]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2013 09:51:52 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Buckley)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The basic GOOD THING is Tidbits being a force for accountability and quality in the Apple universe. As Adam said, making it publicly known when Apple (or any other company) is letting their customers down is so important. I really do believe that when you encounter things like this that really affect your digital life, create a support case on Apple's site, writing up the details--typically a more senior level, knowledgeable person will call you back (usually immediately) and can either help or if not, at least actually log the problem. I think most people neglect to do this due to lack of time, and fatalism. If we all do it, it may actually foment change. Oh, and support Tidbits!!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Jesse the K]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:54:35 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Jesse the K)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[We all screw up eventually, since we're human. I agree with Adam and others who wish Apple to simply admit to their screw ups, and be honest about what their "fixes" are actually fixing.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from tingo]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:38:37 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (tingo)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Word? Sorry, we *have* to use it due to client-side requirements, but it's one of the most maddening crap we've ever used in 30 years of computing.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 03:07:22 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[You're aware that you're agreeing with Adam here, right?]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Marv]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 20:50:02 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Marv)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Frustrations with iWork Pages is not limited to Pages. iWork Numbers is has another issue. I create complicated spreadsheets with formulas in many different cells. In Appleworks on an Apple II, I could lock cells. In Clarisworks/Appleworks on any Mac prior to OS 10.7, I can lock cells. In Microsoft Excel for Mac, I can lock cells. In Numbers, the feature is gone, not there, no way!<br>The creators evidently never had to use a spreadsheet or at least understand basic needs of the user spreadsheet. It is unusable for complicated spreadsheets. One wrong click or entry and the entire spreadsheet is rendered useless.<br><br>And don't get me going on the decision to drop Rosetta from OS 10.7 and later. Backwords compatibility seems to be a thing of the past. Wonder what the outcry would be if Microsoft decided to drop Microsoft Office and prevent it from running on any new OS. That's what Apple did to Appleworks.<br>Don't tell me to get over it and move on. I've been moving on too long for dumb reasons.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Buckley]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 19:52:11 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Buckley)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It would be somewhat legitimate to call me an Apple "fanboy", to use that most derisive of terms. However, I find myself really agreeing re Microsoft doing a much better job of COMMUNICATING with customers, of all kinds. Isn't technology at base so much about communication? That 11 word "release note" you cited is such a perfect example of Apple's patronizing terseness.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from davemcc]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 17:06:34 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (davemcc)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I agree, Adam. Having to switch to another tool would have a significant cost associated with the move.<br><br>Let's hope that Apple notices this article and other comments at some of the bigger Apple-related websites, as well as direct feedback from customers.<br><br>Someone at Apple has got to realize that "pro" users are important, and not just in terms of direct sales.<br><br>If the "iOSification" of OS X continues (with no provisions to "turn on" more advanced features, if they're even available), it's likely that a significant number of higher-end math/science/graphics/media/3D/etc. software, much of which has either returned or just been ported to OS X for the first, may vanish on OS X. Some of those "cornerstone" apps would likely cause a wave of defection from OS X.<br><br>I have never really had to use any other OS, besides a bit of UNIX, in over 30 years... I would lament day I had to move away to another OS... and still using OS X 10.6.8, though perhaps not much longer except under emulation...]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:41:49 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[EPUB is actually pretty important to us - it's why we moved from Word to Pages a while back. (And it's very hard to convert to well - most conversion tools are truly terrible.) Nisus Writer Pro is indeed an option, and very possibly a good one, but there are non-trivial costs in terms of switching such a key tool (buying the software for multiple people, moving a stylesheet over, training authors, learning and working around quirks), so we have to be very careful with that.<br><br>I don't really expect Apple to change anything based on this article, but I do think it's important to point this stuff out in public to make sure the truth is available.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from davemcc]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:53:46 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (davemcc)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[To me, you can and should complain to Apple about these sorts of issues. But, it is very unlikely they're going to respond in a favorable way. Apple is large, like IBM used to be. And, with that, comes arrogance.<br>Why not begin to consider a move to another, more robust application, such as Nisus Writer Pro? NWP has a built-in macro language, which could prove useful to you.<br>If you're going to roll your own CMS, why not implement a more robust authoring environment?<br><br>MS-Word may even be a better choice than Pages. Conversion to the epub format seems like the least important part of the workflow, and one that could be well-served by any number of more robust commercial or free tools.<br><br>Please don't mistake my comments for anything resembling criticism of your issues with Apple. I've experienced similar, or even more frustrating, issues with Apple for many years.<br><br>Please let us know if you ever hear from Apple.<br><br>P.S. Apple could drop epub support at any time ("too pro")...]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Roberts]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:45:35 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Roberts)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I echo many of these comments. I hope to never purchase another Apple computer. I have purchased their products to use in my business since 1989 and have become steadily less impressed with the utility of the operating system to allow me to do my work. Until last fall, I was using 10.4.11 because I looked at each of 10.5, 10.6, and 10.7 and saw nothing that would make my work easier and several issues that would make my work more difficult. I finally purchased a new Macbook running 10.8 after concluding that it was impractical to purchase enough Powerbook G4s to be able to stay at 10.4.11 until I retire. I have had ongoing frustration with 10.8, wasting time every day and losing functionality  with its operating system and software compared to 10.4.11 and the applications I used then. For example, while Spotlight is better under 10.8 than under 10.4.11, it is still worse than the applications that I purchased to search file content under 10.4.11 and 7.5.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Steven Oz]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:43:27 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Steven Oz)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[As a vastly-poorer AAPL shareholder (than I was a few short months ago) I humbly apologize for any part my minute share of Apple may have played in your Pages debacle.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Steve Nicholson]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 11:06:29 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Steve Nicholson)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I was working at Emagic at the time. I think the detailed release notes are a combination of external pressure from Logic's high-profile pro users (whom Emagic always had a close relationship with) and internal pressure from former Emagicians.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 10:00:43 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I don't think we disagree at all. In your GarageBand example, I'm totally with you. And if a music professional relies on iTunes for their business and Apple causes them serious trouble with iTunes 11, that's no less of a problem for them than Pages 4.3 was for me. I'm just saying that when someone is inconvenienced in a professional context, it's a bigger deal than when they're inconvenienced in a consumer fashion.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:55:25 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[If only! Microsoft is much better about providing users with full release notes and future roadmaps and things like that. In at least this respect, Apple is way behind Microsoft and IBM and lots of other companies who do put effort into supporting their professional customers appropriately.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from tom powers]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 09:09:38 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (tom powers)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[On this score, Adam, you are wrong. It's not necessarily a pro vs consumer issue as long as some pros use some "consumer" software. It appears that in this instance it's just your ox that is being gored. I do agree that there are different levels of "importance," but the order of those levels will vary from user to user. What if the audio example you cite affected someone using Garage Band to generate commercial jingles as part of his livelihood?<br><br>I've said it before here, and I'll say it again: If the 1984 Mac ad were made today, the face in the big screen would (should) be Jobs.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from John Beare]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:42:54 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (John Beare)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It seems that Apple has gotten too big for its britches and is morphing into a Microsoft. Perish the thought!]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Barnhart]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:49:28 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Barnhart)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[This is exactly why I've turned off Automatic Software Updates.I learned by lesson when Apple silently removed RSS support from Safari 6 with no warning whatsoever.<br><br>My impression is that Apple is now focused on people who are 'content consumers' and is disregarding us 'content creators'.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Larry Stone]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 04:32:56 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Larry Stone)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[It has become increasingly obvious that there's only two ways to use any Apple product: the Apple Way and the Wrong Way. If you're not using it exactly as Apple believes you should, then you're using it the Wrong Way and steps will be taken without notice to insure you can no longer use it the Wrong Way. Worse yet, today's Apple Way may be the Wrong Way a year from now.<br><br>Seriously, I am convinced that much of Apple, sitting in their palace in Cupertino with their state of the art tools and super-high speed network, has no clue how people use their products in the real world.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from tingo]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2013 01:28:59 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (tingo)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Long-term computer users can only recognize themselves (and the hours wasted) in your description. That's why, whenever I get a chance, I'll favour small companies like Lemke Software or Rogue Amoeba against bloated monsters such as Adobe, Apple, whatever.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Rob Lewis]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:10:58 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Rob Lewis)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The arrogance is getting worse than tiresome. A little humility would be refreshing, and would humanize the cold brushed steel monolith. <br>Oh, and respond to my freaking bug reports! <br><br>An industry veteran and former consultant to Apple I know, who shall remain nameless, but may be the only person on earth to have Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, and Rob Glaser all come to his wedding, told me a few years ago "I fully expect Apple to screw up eventually."]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:48:43 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[That might have worked in this case, but with the Mac App Store, it's becoming less and less possible in general.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:48:05 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Logic was acquired when Apple purchased Emagic in 2002; perhaps it's treated differently because members of the Emagic team are still working on the product.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:45:31 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I wish it were that simple, but with the size of the overall market these days, even the subset of professional users isn't large enough for Apple to care on the purely economic standpoint. Frankly, I think the only thing that will cause Apple to change their behavior is the worry about complaints affecting their overall reputation (and thus future sales).]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Jason Bush]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:32:34 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Jason Bush)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Apple will only care when it costs them money. Stop giving them your money.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Steve Nicholson]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:27:02 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Steve Nicholson)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[There is at least one place where Apple realizes its responsibility to professional users and publishes comprehensive release notes: Logic. Whenever a new version of Logic comes out, there's a tech note with an exhaustive list of changes. So someone at the company understands your point. Hopefully that philosophy will spread from the Logic team to other departments.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Joe Swann]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:02:04 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Joe Swann)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I have become increasing dissatisfied with Apple for the last year or more over issues like this. It makes me feel like craftsmanship (in the software) and customer service are taking a back seat to market performance and profit margins. I am also beginning to feel very locked in which is uncomfortable when it looks like the software tools are moving in a direction I don't always want them to go.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Morrison]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:40:58 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Morrison)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Apple's attitude to customers is getting more and more cavalier. The security settings of two of my Apple IDs have been "upgraded" in the last three weeks. In one case, the first I heard of it was when the app store told me I was using a new device and had to answer my security questions. Except that the questions were not the ones I had set up. I could not even change the questions because you have to answer them before you can access the security page.<br><br>In the other case, I got an e-mail saying my questions had been changed. Thinking someone had broken Into my account, I logged in but again could not access the security section.<br><br>In both cases, I had to call Apple support to get my account reset.<br><br>This is just not giving any respect to customers. Any sort of warning is better than none. And having to call support to get your account back. It beggars belief. Just imagine 200 million people having to call support, and in Australia they only work business hours.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from artMonster]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 20:07:24 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (artMonster)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[There is a Apple support thread on this. So others have been bitten too, unfortunately.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from David Morrison]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:53:17 EST</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (David Morrison)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[As for software updates, I make a point of downloading the standalone installers and installing manually. That way I can always reinstall if necessary.]]></description>
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