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		<title>TidBITS: Comments on Deciding If Time Machine Should Back Up Dropbox</title>
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		<description>Most people don’t realize that Time Machine backs up their Dropbox folder by default. This is either a nice secondary backup of key information or a waste of precious hard drive space for files that are already being duplicated to the Dropbox Web site.</description>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 00:00:00 EDT</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:01:43 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I've not tried this, but I would have expected the newer information from the Dropbox Web site to update the older, now-restored information on your Mac. But perhaps there's something that prevents that from happening.<br><br>And if it does, the next approach would be to restore that information from the Dropbox Web site, since if old bad information has somehow replaced new good information, it will be only a single event for each file, and Dropbox's revision history should be sufficient to restore it.<br><br>Regardless, I think the issue we were looking at in this article was the loss of a single file, which could be restored either via Time Machine or via Dropbox. If you're concerned about this possibility of a Time Machine restore overwriting newer Dropbox files, it sounds like excluding your Dropbox folder from Time Machine would be called for, since then the Time Machine restore wouldn't contain those old files and Dropbox would simply bring the restored Mac back to the current state with no fuss.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Michael S]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:44:00 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Michael S)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[What no one here seems to be aware of is that if you lose your harddrive and have to wipe it and reload it with TM, TM will only upload it's latest bachkup. If you've done a ton of work and saved it in Dropbox since that last backup, then it's all lost. Once you put TM bakup on a new disk, it automatically pushes that old Dropbox data to the cloud and rewrites all the work you did since that last TM backup. I lost tons of work I did on a script because of this. <br><br>Best solution is to create a mirror folder that is backed up if you're concerned that mirrors your Dropbox folder.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:58:10 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Dropbox has talked about how hard it was to add support for all this extended metadata in the past, but my understanding is that they have tried to support it all. Might be worth some additional research or testing if you're worried.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Jolin Warren]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:56:43 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Jolin Warren)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[One thing to be careful with if excluding Dropbox from Time Machine is that Dropbox only supports some Mac metadata. I believe it now supports labels, but in the past I've had annotations removed from my Skim PDFs by Dropbox (Skim stores these as extended attributes). My understanding  is that Dropbox supports core metadata, but not the full set. In my opinion, it is therefore not a reliable backup. I don't want to have to worry about what kind of files will and won't be fully backed up. That's why my Dropbox folder is included in both my local backup (a combination of two of Time Machine, Carbon Copy Clone, and SuperDuper) and my CrashPlan backup (which has excellent Mac metadata support).]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Dana Schwartz]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:13:58 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Dana Schwartz)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[There is also an invisible folder within the Dropbox folder, ".dropbox.cache", which seems to contain files recently deleted from the main folder.  I assume this is to speed recovery of files deleted from other machines, but haven't really tracked its function much.  Time Machine must be backing this up as well.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Infinite Vortex]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:54:01 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Infinite Vortex)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[For me it would depend on the Dropbox folder. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be downloading one that's over a GB or 2 as it would be quicker and simpler to go back to Time Machine.<br><br>If your TM drive is correctly and sufficiently large the DropBox size shouldn't matter to it although it may well do if you need to add Internet speeds into the mix.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Frances Allen]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:00:33 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Frances Allen)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I actually exploit the fact that Time Machine can backup folders on Dropbox!  I have a Mac at home and an iPad when I travel.  I have my main Documents folder on dropbox, with an alias on my Mac.  This means that all the original files for  administrative and family stuff are accessible anywhere in the world.  It works so well that I tend to forget that the most important bits of my life are not on my Mac but on another cloud.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:01:17 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[That'll teach me not to check things - you're absolutely right. Will fix...]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Me]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:23:15 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Me)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[You should be able to restore folders by clicking "Show deleted files". It'll show folders as well as files, and right-clicking folders will give you a "Restore" option.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Adam Engst]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 06:13:50 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Adam Engst)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Excellent point, Michael! I'll add that to the article, since it's well worth keeping in mind.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from John Baxter]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:06:29 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (John Baxter)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[I (as a non-user of Dropbox) think you should allow Time Machine to back up the Dropbox folder.<br><br>It's not necessary—you can get the data back from Dropbox. Unless...something horrible happens at Dropbox. Dropbox is careful about not losing data, but...suppose for example the FBI got overly aggressive when trying to seize someone else's Dropbox data and its contents. It's happened before at other sites.<br><br>At the same time, if you have multiple Macs on the same Dropbox account, letting Time Machine back up the Dropbox folder on only one of them would seem to be enough.<br><br>My rule is "one copy is not enough". If you consider all of Dropbox to be one copy, then Dropbox is not enough.<br><br>1. My paranoia is showing above. But the machines ARE out to get me.<br><br>2. I use Skydrive instead, and I let Time Machine back up the Skydrive folder on one of my Macs.<br>]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Steven Fisher]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:37:00 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Steven Fisher)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[The answer to "Should I do an extra backup?" is almost always "Yes."<br><br>And the answer to "Should I have at least one complete backup, even if I have everything backed up, just not in the same place?" is also "Yes."<br><br>But despite my glib comment, this is a good article. Thanks.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from Michael Schmitt]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 17:06:05 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (Michael Schmitt)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[Both the Dropbox website and the client only permit you to restore previous versions of individual files, not folders.  If you want to restore a folder of files, you'd need to drill down and individually restore each and every file.  This is true even if you are trying to restore an application or document package which the Finder presents as a single file.]]></description>
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			<title><![CDATA[Comment from kevin]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2013 14:30:26 EDT</pubDate>
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			<author><![CDATA[comments@tidbits.com (kevin)]]></author>
			<description><![CDATA[heh, i backup my dropbox to both time machine and crash plan, in case something happens to dropbox. fortunately i have the disk space on my time machine drives to do so.]]></description>
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